Stormy Daniels tells Donald Trump to resign on Saturday Night Live

Adult film actress Stephanie Clifford also known as Stormy Daniels with her lawyer Michael Avenatti in New York City

Adult film actress Stephanie Clifford also known as Stormy Daniels with her lawyer Michael Avenatti in New York City

Cohen "made payments for the president, or he conducted business for the president", Giuliani said, "which means he had legal fees, monies laid out, and expenditures, which I have on my bills to my clients".

Avenatti appeared on ABC's "This Week" on Sunday after the former mayor of NY sat down with host George Stephanopoulos in a messy and at times rambling interview about Trump's knowledge of a $130,000 payment to Daniels, a porn star whose legal name is Stephanie Clifford. But it's proving to be a bewildering display.

Donald Trump's newest attorney Rudy Giuliani was a special guest on This Week with George Stephanopoulos Sunday to clarify a couple of issues that have been hovering over the former NY mayor's head - specifically the payment made to Stormy Daniels to keep her from coming forward about her alleged affair with the President.

Giuliani wouldn't rule out Trump asserting his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination in the Russian Federation probe. "I'm going to walk him into a prosecution for perjury like Martha Stewart did?" Giuliani asked, referring to the lifestyle maven convicted in 2004 of lying to investigators and obstruction in an insider trading case. "And from a legal standpoint it's creating havoc and it will be the downfall of Trump if he ever has to go testify before a court of law". And Trump has responded accordingly, he said. "If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?"

Jack Sharman, who was a special counsel to Congress during the Whitewater investigation into the Clintons' real estate investments, thinks Mueller's subpoena request is really more of a negotiating tactic than an actual threat.

"Trump probably, rightly, has decided that if it's a political process, he's gonna fight it that way", he said.




Norman Eisen, ethics chief under Trump's predecessor, Democrat Barack Obama, said any such payments would have constituted campaign contributions if they were meant to influence the election, even if they were also made with the "partial motive of protecting the Trump family from embarrassment". Daniels claims that she and Trump had an affair in 2006, which Trump denies.

When Trump was asked last month aboard Air Force One if he knew about the payment to Daniels, he said no. Trump also said he didn't know why Cohen had made the payment or where he got the money.

Rudy Giuliani's client, President Trump, has shown a willingness to speak to special counsel Robert Mueller; Garrett Tenney reports on Giuliani's stance on the issue.

On Thursday, in an exclusive interview with Fox News's Sean Hannity, Giuliani said that the payment was "perfectly legal" and was not "campaign money", The Hill reported.

The president subsequently said Giuliani did not have the facts straight, but Trump did not specify what was wrong with Giuliani's account or what the truth is. He has called Daniels' allegations of an affair "false and extortionist".

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